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  • See, that’s your problem. You’re arguing, with me, about something that was said to you by someone else. Do you realize why I’m questioning your argumentative skills?

    I’m sorry? You came to me.

    Here is how I see it:

    1. Someone compared AI to calculator/calendar
    2. I said you cannot compare that
    3. You asked why I even argue with the first person
    4. I said that I want a better discussion
    5. You said that I should stop dimissing other people’s arguments
    6. I tried to explain why I don’t think it is a valid argument to compare LLM to “calculator can do reliably. or a timer. or a calendar.”
    7. You did not seem to agree with me on that from what I understand.
    8. And now we are here.

    Here’s a source to a study

    I don’t have the time to read the articles now so I will have to do it later, but hallucinations can definitively be a problem. Asking for code is one such situation where an LLM can just make up functions that does not exist.




  • That is your opinon and that is fine. Just don’t attack people because they don’t agree, and don’t argue that LLMs are because because they can’t do what they are not made to do. It is okey to say the ChatGPT is shit because you can’t use it as a calendar if OpenAI is trying to market that. But that is not LLM in general.



  • If you want to shit on OpenAI because you think they stink, that is fine. If you want to shit on their LLM because you think it sucks, that is also fine. But don’t say that the concept of LLM sucks because OpenAI and their product is bad or their marketing of said product. Say that LLM sucks because there is no regulation and companies are using this to hurt people. Say that OpenAIs LLM suck because they took from the people to create it without giving back. Don’t say that OpenAIs LLM cannot produce good output becuase they stole, because the output is good. Stealing is still wrong. Don’t say that someone else is worse at what they are doing because they used an LLM. Say that they are worse at what they are doing because (and if) they cannot do it without an LLM.

    It would be a nice discussion if you did not try to argue on bad faith. Of course I don’t want to compare something that is meant to kill with something that could if you really try. Should be ban ropes because you can strangle people with them? Of course not, that’s stupid and you know it.


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    I’m trying to say that one should call a fraud a fraud, not a bad screwdriver.
    You want to have a discussion about the fraud? Don’t say that screwdriver suck, say that it did not do what is was advertised to do.

    It is OK for a few people to hurt others, since you personally are benefiting, in a very small way, from the cruelty?

    That is not what I tried to say.


  • If the argument want as you have laid it out, I would not dismiss it. But I cannot do that when the arguemnt is ”hammers in general are bad because I cannot use them to drive to work” or ”also your essay fucking sucks. learn to put together a coherent thought instead of relying on a glorified autocorrect that doesn’t have them at all to do it for you”. That second one is an actual quote.

    What you bring up is how a few people is power are using AI to increase their wealth without regards for human suffering. I agree that what they are doing is wrong. And the discussion should be about how AI affects our society, how it is used and who controls it. This does not make AI a bad tool, it makes it a tool that can used in a bad way to cause a lot of harm.


  • funny how it’s not “intelligent” enough to say “hey I don’t really do math”

    From what I understand, that is how OpenAI has decided to make their LLM and not an inherit property of LLMs, but I could you be wrong.

    also your essay fucking sucks

    Did you read it?

    learn to put together a coherent thought instead of relying on a glorified autocorrect that doesn’t have them at all to do it for you.

    I’ll take a guess here. You think I had the LLM write my essey for me. You also think I used it to correct my spelling.
    I already have other software that can help me with my spelling, so that was not needed. I wrote my whole essey first, because actually doing myself is faster and gives a better result than trying to prompt an AI to do it, at least for me.

    What I did do was feed my text into an LLM to see how I could improve the structure of my text, how tense could be used correctly and if any words that I used could be changed for a better substitute. All of those are things that I could do myself, but I had an excellent tool to help me with it so I used it.

    Not using it would be just as stupid as not using a software to correct spelling becuase it might get the spelling wrong.

    I think you do not understand how to get the most out of an LLM or you are using it wrong. Or both.







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