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Well, asking to boycott the US would be no problem but israel is somehow not okay although what they do is significantly worse.
Thanks for making my point.
Well, depending on where you live you can get fined severely if you speak your mind.
This reads like fucking world war Z. I will not incriminate myself by writing anything more.
Lol. Its called horizontal integration and would be outlawed in any fair society. Fuck apple, fuck capitalism.
Exactly. The things we need are contrary to his beliefs. Healthcate, affordable homes and food for all are socialist ideas.
Vote theleft in local elections and join a union.
We’re ruled by late stage capitalists. Of course we throw money at google.
You’re funny.
I said we should not compromise on these things, you’re trying to make a strawman, and badly.
You started with the left vs right debate and are attacking me ad hominem with it.
Your way of discussion is massively out of line and very condescending.
Also, trying to top my point of the overtone (its not important if i spell it correctly, get over yourself) window is childish, while you’re accusing me of being exactly that. That was massively ableist too.
You’re the exact reason why people with a brain dont like centrists. They’re just fashists undercover. The same attack methods, the same disregard for human rights and decency.
Next you say feminists, vegans or climatechange activists are hurting the cause because they’re “too loud”. Honestly, people in the thousands die every day because people like you say " what can you do?!" Instead of “maybe we stop that”
Anyway. As you can imagine, i dont allow people with less than decent communication style in my feed. So go spill your poison somewhere else.
Welp. Its actually very in line with the late stage capitalist system. All polish, no innovation.
You’re all morals and no facts. Nobody said murder, let alone mass murder would be okay.
You dont like the symbol i get it.
Now stop with the strawmen. Its not what is happening here.
I get that you’re triggered but it is not okay to attack other people like this.
Please read a book. It will help you. Get off the internet for a moment and start reading. Understand what people mean when they say communism instead of trying to get them to shut up. We will never shut up. You will always get triggered and hurt other people. That is literally what we are trying to stop.
The definition of communism is the classless, stateless society. You’re not even referencing anything in particular. What you - i think - are talking about is stalinism. That i havent been too much into yet. I have heard about the infamous gulags which apparently have been horrendous.
Btw its also illegal in the country i live in to compare what the nazis in the holocausy did with anything else. We call it holocaust relativism.
Ah, a “centrist”. So how much killing of people is central enough for you? How much genocide?
The idea of “radical = bad” is a trick. It’s got zero to do with reality.
Example: depending on where you ask, radical means entirely different things. Read about the overtone window.
That said, radical leftism is about human rights. It is about destroying hierarchies between people. In short it means: everyone gets what they need and does what they can. Or “food, water, housing are inalienable rights.”
The radical right is about superiorism. White power, discrimination and ultimately destruction of what they view as “lesser” be it people who look different, have different ancestral history etc.
And you think its smart to compromise between the two? I suggest reading books.
Nice ad hominem bro.
I have family from eastern europe. I also have family from east germany.
You know what they say? You know what the majority of the people who lived that era say? Its much worse now.
People using stalin and national socialism to discredit the idea of communism and socialism need to start reading books. Its really important to start having actual discussions without personally attacking folks. These shortcirtuited propaganda ridden hateposts wont convince me and they wond convince anyone who is able to read a book.
People in eastern germany, infamously, didnt have bananas most of the year. You know what they also didnt have? Homeless people, starving people. Today that is the case A LOT.
Of course it was interesting and promising for people to come to western germany from socialist or communist countries back then. But its not because they had to fear for their lives because they couldnt afford to pay the rent or their food.
The most important part is that authoritarian governments are not what leftism is about, its not what socialism or communism is about.
Here’s interesting stuff from a pretty reliable source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
Have fun reading. It will help.
Okay. So you dont mean communism or socialism, you are talking about a symbol. So if one took lets say, a wave, would it be okay then to have people housed and fed?
Interesting take. What makes you say that?
You are making assumptions. It shows that you dont have any idea of leftism.
The idea of leftism is that people (and animals in most cases) are the same and deserve their needs met.
You can criticize the measures taken to ensure this, especially in capitalist societies where you may have to use force to break capitalist resistance. If all you ever knew is rape, being disallowed to rape can feel repressive. But its still okay to repress it.
And it is okay to disagree on this. Thats why we have both anarchists and marxists. Massively simplified, one party wants to mentally arm the population and push for a self educating, politically mature population. The other one wants to change the system from the top and reeducate the public on cooperation and classless society while forcefully repressing the regressive ideas.
They both actually want the same, communism. The classless, stateless society.
Of course that is an ideal, a utopia that might never be real but the millions of people dying under capitalism every year and the exploited people all over the world, the exploited planet that is starting to kick us out are WAY worse than all that has been seen before. The strongest argument for marxism is the limited time we have before we will just die out (starting with those who already are exploited the most today).
You mean like every other government? I dont. Radical leftists stand for human rights. Of course there is a chance that they get coopted. But every other political ideology does not need to get coopted to oppress people.
Good. I also have. If you tell me your thoughts, i’ll tell you mine.
The answer is monopoly capitalism. We are unarmed against globalist monopolies.
We need to break up monopolists and massively fund small competitors. Its not that hard.