Astonishingly awful polling for Starmer, who has destroyed his favourability among everyone especially his own voters, while somehow making Farage more popular. If I was Morgan McSweeney, I would quit my job.
Some other ‘highlights’:
‘This is the first time Keir Starmer has recorded a net negative approval rating among Labour voters.’
Labour is now even more unpopular than the lowest point of Corbyn’s leadership.
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Just so I can say ‘I told you so’, if:
- There isn’t an all-out war in Europe, and,
- Starmer’s still PM at the next GE
Then he will lose his own seat.
It’s pretty easy to keep the centrists and left wingers happy—don’t make policy decisions that align with Reform.
This plan of trying to out-Farage Farage is ridiculous and only benefits Reform as it allows less informed voters to draw similarities between the parties. All this is doing is legitimising their absurd positions.
Let the Tories fight for those right wing scraps and occupy the huge swaths of rational political positions left currently empty
You are absolutely right. There’s empirical evidence that these kinds of ‘accommodationist’ policies only increase support for the far right. These polls are further evidence that the Starmer strategy is counter-productive.
Starmers policies are to please his donors not his voters.
I predict Farage will strategically outflank Starmer on his left on strategic issues, but Starmer knows this. The animating principle of anglosphere neoliberal center right parties like Labour, the Canadian Liberals, and the DNC is to deprive the left of their most viable party, not to actually win. They are throwing themselves on a grenade to open space for their brethren center right parties like Reform or the Tories to rule.
“They’re right about everything, and you shouldn’t vote for them” is the message he’s giving
The Greens having a 2 point lead over Labour with 2024 Labour voters is really quite damning. Really goes to show that the strategy of alienating people that voted for you to win over people that never will isn’t the most sensible.
Fuck Reform
At this rate, Labour is going to end up supporting AV just to get seats next election.
Wait, that’s not a bad outcome…
genuinely
After how he’s carried on, I don’t care about strategic voting anymore. It’s greens all the way for me.
Labour canvasser asked why I wasn’t voting that way at the last GE. I said, “I’m a socialist - honestly, would you*?” and he seemed within a heartbeat of agreeing. The local crowd seemed pretty depressed about chasing the Overton window back then [although obviously they will make sympathetic noises towards anyone they’re talking to, that’s part of the job].
[* This isn’t risking a Reform storm - FPTP and I’m in a solidly Labour ward, but they still bothered to knock on doors, which was eye-opening in itself]
I’m still a member for now, but I’m not surprised people feel that way.
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Woof.
I’m pretty much convinced by Craig Murray’s assertion that Starmer has always been a state agent who had infiltrated Labour.
I am gonna repeat someone’s apt description of Farage, he is like a shit that won’t flush. And thanks for making him stick even more Kier Starmer, what a labour party wow.
Not from the UK – what did this guy do?
A few things.
- He came into power because the electorate were looking for change. We’re still looking for it because he’s just slowed the decay a little, and hasn’t really made any big plays.
- Whereas leaders like Canada’s Mark Carney have basically told Trump to take a flying leap off a short pier, Starmer has tried to play to his ego. He’s invited him for a state visit, which is pretty much universally hated. He’s negotiated over tariffs. He’s normalised what Trump does.
- The government are currently fighting a court case where their lawyers claim the is “no evidence of genocide in Gaza” therefore arms sales to Israel are legal. Starmer is an ex-human-rights lawyer.
- He recently made a speech about immigration calling the UK an “Island of strangers”. He’s chasing a right-wing vote because the right-wing Reform Party are getting stronger. None of them would touch him with a barge pole so it’s pointless. While he’s doing this the left-wing base are ditching him for the Greens and LibDems.
So if you’re a pro-austerity pro-israel anti-immigration Trumper who thinks Reform UK is a step too far, you’ll be happy with Starmer. Otherwise you’re looking for other options.
Let’s add one
- Saw the supreme court rule the law has always been that trans women aren’t allowed in spaces for women, and did nothing at all about it despite previously saying trans women are women. We’re going to have the most draconian toilet legislation In the world apparently written a decade ago entirely by accident and the pm acts like it’s nothing to do with him.
Decided to blame immigrants for all the country’s problems.
He rode to power on the back of not being from the party behind the least popular government in fucking ages (after 14 years of disaster). He made lots of promises to appeal to the essentially left-wing party that he’s the leader of. In any case, he wound up with a landslide parliamentary majority off the back of around a third of the actual vote.
Since then he’s put Wes Streeting in charge of the NHS and McSweeney in charge of strategy, and has chased the racist vote that’s stoked up by Nige “Brexit” Farage.
So he’s triangulating right to chase the votes of people who can’t stand him and will never vote for him, and in the space of a month has lost 34 approval points from actual Labour voters to wind up with a net -5 approval or something like that.
What’s odd is that I know people who’ve met him and worked with him personally, and they are all largely of the belief that he’s a man of deep principle. Which just goes to show his talent, because he’s hiding it incredibly well at the moment.
He’s a Conservative who took over our main ‘left’ party and ousted all the leftwing politicians from it. He’s pro-israel (his wife is israeli), anti-immigration, deeply transphobic, fucking over the disabled and impoverished, further fucking over the NHS, etc.
There’s more but I don’t want to keep thinking about this as it’s upsetting and I have shit to do today.
Can you provide any source on Victoria Starmer being an Israeli. I was searching and couldn’t find anything to support that claim.
It was mentioned she’s a double citizen in multiple news articles at one point, I’m pretty sure I even read it in the guardian, but it’s not coming up when I’m searching for it now either, just that the PM and his wife have ‘israeli family’.
Maybe you are thinking of this guardian article it touches the topic area near the end though doesn’t mention dual citizenship
I hadn’t actualy read that one, I don’t think.
Holy shit though, according this article Starmer’s wife’s mother converted (not an easy process in Judaism!) but apprently Starmer’s FIL and his family don’t accept her as actually Jewish? That’s not how conversion works with Judaism, if you manage to get in, you’re actually in, and if you’re a woman, any kids you have will be born Jewish.
And not to mention converts are allowed isreali citizenship under their law of return, just like any other Jewish person.
Firstly I am not aware of his wife being Israeli. Apparently she is British. Secondly, even if hypothetically she has Israeli citizenship, that doesn’t necessarily determine that Keir would be pro-Israel. It also doesn’t determine that Keir would support the current government of Israel.
Starmers behaviour is undeniably pro israel though. He’s jailed reporters for reporting too accurately on this genocide, he’s been sending over huge amounts of weapons to israel, his ‘human rights’ lawyer mates have decided that the genocide of Palestinians is warranted, etc.
Him having israeli family just adds to this compromising behaviour.
My understanding is that his wife is Jewish but that doesn’t mean she is Israeli. I think she’s just British. It’s like how not every Muslim is Asian; there are British Muslims.
It’s fair to criticise Starmer for his policies on Israel, obviously, and it’s fair to say he’s too pro-Israel if you think he is. But I don’t think his wife’s background necessarily determines Starmer’s views. Just like it would be wrong to assume that Sadiq Khan practices political favouritism towards Pakistan just because he has family from there.
So you believe Starmer’s family ties to israel are just coincidental and completely unrelated to his zionist policies? That he just decided on his own, completely independent of any israeli influence, that genociding Palestinians is acceptable?
Sadiq Khan doesn’t actively practice or advocate for political favouritism towards Pakistan or Islam. The only people assuming he does are stupid racists.
It’s not antisemitic to hate israel. Nor is it bigoted or remotely stupid to look at Starmer’s zionist behaviour and active political support of genocide, and link it to him having a direct connection to israel.
Why do you only call it racism when we’re talking about Muslims, but not when we’re talking about Jews? It’s either racism in both cases, or racism in neither case.
Because the idiots who think Sadiq favours Muslims, think all Muslims are brown.
It’s not racist or antisemetic to hate isresl. Nor is it racist or antisemetic to be opposed to having a genocidal zionist with isareli family as the prime minister.
Jewish people are not all isrelli. Israeli people are not a race. And a great many Jews are actively opposed to zionism and the genocide of Palestinians.
Stop trying to imply shit.
Our PM is a zionist with israeli family, who is actively supporting the genocide of Palestinians. This is literally undisputable.
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He’s not a Conservative.
His behaviour says otherwise. He’s literally out tory’d the torys.
It’d be far worse under the Conservatives.
Our former human rights lawyer of a PM has been fucking over those in need of human rights at breakneck speed in the last ten months, he’s well out paced the nearly 15 previous years of tory bullshit in this regard. Have you not been paying attention, or do you just not consider the people he’s hurting to be worthy of human rights?
The only ‘Labour’ things about Starmer are the party he took over and the fact he’s as much a war criminal as Blair.
Perhaps you’ve ignored what’s actually happened over those 15 years.
Can you point to a single year of that last 15 under the Tory’s, where they achieved as much lasting harm to as many different groups of people, as Starmer has managed to in the last 10 months?
At least the torys were incompetent bigots. This prick we now have is a fucking wrecking ball.
A wolf in sheep’s clothing. Labour is our main left wing party, but he’s left wing in name only. Blames immigration for all our problems while screwing over vulnerable people plus dismantling the NHS even more.
and flirting with Fascists like Trump and Netanyahu
Another job well done stage a coup for Israel and shift the public sentiment to the right. This is peak Liberalism.
